THE DE-POPULATION AGENDA and SURVEILLANCE OF YOU

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It would appear the plan to depopulate the Earth by the ruling Elite is well under way. It all started benign I guess you could say, with cancer causing vaccines and through war and genocide they let go on and on. Speaking of cancer, you really think nobody has found a cure in Fifty years? Especially with the leap in technology from then til now? No it’s suppressed so we can either die off, or spend billions on hopeless pharmaceuticals and they make money while we still die off. We’ve been eating radiated food since the microwave was invented…hell there is probably one in every home by now. All those sandwiches and apple slices our moms packed for us as kids, well turns out that and damn near everything wrapped in plastic has cancer causing agents all over the inside that gets absorbes by the food inside.
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And speaking of food, fast food packed full of preservatives and fake meat and soy paste and god knows what…they market this crap to kids to hook them at a young age…Here is how chicken nuggets are made…

     Our water is fluoridated(no health benefit, but has quality of neuro inhibitor), diet stuff is made with aspartame(a biproduct of hazardous waste), regular stuff sweetened with genetically modified corn syrup…they’ve got you coming or going. They are spraying our atmosphere with nanospheres of aluminum and other particulate metals they say to combat global warming and to reflect some of the sun’s energy back before it reaches Earth.
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The chemtrails eventually reach the surface of the Earth, and after time makes the soil useless (unless you use genetically modified seeds).
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Frito Lay GMO Lawsuit
Now that they’ve got us cancer ridden, poisoned, and forced to eat their cancer and tumor inducing genetically modified foods, what’s the plan for the rest of us?

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Ever hear of U.N. Agenda 21? It’s a global plan signed into effect 20 years ago by 179 countries, and started being implemented a year later by the U.S. It is basically a land use agenda that supersedes local and state zoning laws. It has also indoctrinated city planners and the like to curtail growth in rural areas and claim the land for themselves while slowly herding everyone to.city centers. There we don’t have pollution from all the commuters and we can be more easily surveilled and goods and services are more localized and controlled. In some areas you can’t even put a garden in your own yard, to grow your own food. Not allowing fences and forcing bike paths along properties…keep your EYES open and be aware…it’s a slow burn and they are very patient and remember this is happening in 179 countries all over the world. Their agenda was even set in stone…maybe you’ve heard of the Georgia Guidestones?

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The plan for the future is etched in stone for future generations in several languages. 1984 is already here, have a look up next time you’re at a stop light and I bet you’ll see cameras pointing in every direction…capable of plate reading and facial recognition, logging your movements everywhere you go. On top of your position being triangulated constantly if you have a cell phone, and DVR’S and cable boxes capable of spying on you in your own home. Cell Phone Use Logged by GoogleYour credit and debit cards and grocery store keychain discount cards registered to you they know what you eat, what you spend your money on, where you go…i’m sure a supercomputer somewhere is logging a file on all of us.

Be safe, be well, and know they are always watching….

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The Grand Consipracy PT. 2 – Cash for Gold

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Imagine this scenario…there are how many towns and cities in the U.S.? Hundreds of thousands of small towns, maybe 250 large cities…and in each small town, maybe 5 or so jewelry stores that will buy your gold, maybe 1 or 2 actual Cash4Gold storefronts, a couple pawn shops, not to mention the traveling Gold grabs that go from hotel to hotel…and this is every small town in America, with even more in big cities. It started a couple years ago with a mail service, where you sent them your gold after requesting a a gold kit, and then you got a check in the mail. Why the gold rush?

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No one has been allowed inside Fort Knox in 38 years, this past year some Congressmen petitioned to ne allowed entry to check on the gold and were quickly DENIED!

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So…was it moved to one of their underground bunkers? Paid to China? Used up for technology purposes? We may never know the truth. Which leads us back to who is behind the gold rush? I tend to look at the store front Gold places like used car dealers..they offer and pay the lowest amount they can to people usually desperate for money. Then sell it back to who? Banks, the Federal Reserve, the Gov’t? Who the hell knows…but what I do know is that they are melting down a hell of a lot of jewelry…almost 50% of the worlds gold supply is used to make jewelry…here’s the breakdown…

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There are lots of crazy theories out there as to where all this gold is going…used for super conductor technology for top secret projects, traded to aliens for technology or to not destroy us, whatever the reason, the gold rush is on…HOLD YOUR GOLD! The scarcer it becomes, the more valuable it becomes!

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Silly Silly Pete Santilli

Ok, just for full disclosure, the only time I have listened to the Pete Santilli show, was when he had Jim Fetzer on, and after hearing that debacle, have no desire whatsoever to listen further. I tuned in for the entertainment value and curiosity, as I hadn’t heard of Santilli before. After doing a little looking into this guy, I found he has an almost McAdams like presence on the internet, where they pop up anywhere and everywhere, even the most obsure blog and internet radio show. This includes Tila Tequila’s “radio” show…nuff said….And let me also say that though I may disagree with Jim Fetzer about alot his JFK views, I believe he is headed in the right direction on his theories about 9/11. The theory must explain the evidence, and vice versa. Hijackers and jet fuel do NOT explain what happened that day, and while what happened to the Twin Towers is important, you cannot exclude the Pentagon and Shanksville from the conversation. The Pentagon looks more like a drone or missle strike to me, but definitely was not a plane…(see below)

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Santilli’s antics as a host are deplorable, and either he was grossly misinformed or this an attempted coup to discredit Jim Fetzer’s arguments. Which now include the “no plane” theory and use of directed mini-nukes (neutron) to turn the towers to dust. Santilli kept saying he was pissed that he just found out all this evidence out 3 months ago, and was wondering why nobody told him. Well jackass, that is your own fault, if you haven’t heard about or looked into the arguments for 9/11 truth until 11 years after the fact, either you have had your head up your ass or you are a hypnotized sheep like  90% of the population that believes everything the Government says and looks no further. He was blatantly twisting Fetzer’s words and accusing him of covering up the fact that there was a hurricane that day off the coast of New York. Whooptie shit…unless you can attribute some meaning the hurricane had on 9/11 it means nothing. Santilli also says Judy Woods doesn’t claim anything about “space beams” … but here she is on Jesse Ventura’s Conspiracy Theory show saying just that… https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qfm3dEa30H0&feature=youtube_gdata_player
This guy is a Johnny come lately to 9/11 and obviously has not done his homework. This type of weasly, attack dog mentality with his whiny voice is exactly the kind of crap I like to avoid. Listening to this show was the most agonizing two hours of my life, but if you like to torture yourself…i recommend the version on Fetzer’s site because the audio quality is better and you get to hear him cuss out Santilli. If you can endure this, you will clearly see this guy is either grossly misinformed or psy-op sent to discredit people because they are getting too close to the TRUTH…you decide…
http://www.radiofetzer.blogspot.com

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(This was not a directed energy weapon)

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Edit: After further rumination, and more interaction with Santilli, the more convinced i become this guy and probably Judy Woods are cointelpro. Read his comment on this post and compare it to this….
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This guy has a CIA reach and comments on every blog that mentions his name and every radio show discussing him. The timing of Judy coming out to further throw a wrench into the 9/11 investigation, right after we started to get organized and powerful, with professionals in various fields of research, is just more than a coincidence in my opinion. Her theory is unprovable and is meant to be a distraction and get us talking about chex and cheesy poofs instead of what the evidence really says. After further analysis of the dust samples have PROVED traces of elements found in nuclear reactions and all the sickness and death of first responders, it really onky points to one thing. And the rise of Pete Santilli is suspect at best…he went from being a Coke salesman to attack dog radio host. This guy turned on a company that provided him with a life, and as soon as he saw an opportunity to cash in, he did…bringing a $200 million dollar lawsuit against his former employer. You think he wouldn’t be doing this unless he was getting paid? I doubt it. He exudes paranoia and employs psy op techniques to discredit the real 9/11 researchers who are getting too close to the truth. ** AVOID AT ALL COST **

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Lifting the Veil…The Grand Conspiracy

   I am going to lay out a picture of a grand conspiracy so large, it’s hard to fathom. But, if true, it is totally mindblowing. I take no credit for the story I am merely a messenger, and after pondering this…I had to share it and get your thoughts. Okay, join me on a trip down the rabbit hole…let’s go….

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  Say hello to Aleister Crowley, the father of the modern Satanic movement.  He is also quite possibly the father of Barbara Bush. Do you see the resemblance? ^^^^  Apparently, he had an affair with Barbara’s mother. The practitioner of sex magick was definitely in the right place at the right time to be her father, though Marvin Pierce is officially credited as her father. Now we slide over to the Bush side and start with Prescott Bush. A U.S. senator who was well on his way to becoming a President himself, sidelined by being part of Brown Brothers Harriman that helped finance Hitler’s rise to power and finance the Nazi regime.
    Now here’s where it starts to get weird…there are allegations from Otto Skorzney that Nazi George Sherff Sr. is actually Prescott Bush and that his son George Scherff Jr., is actually George H.W. Bush and that he was sent over to spy in his teens on one Nikola Tesla and his discoveries of free energy.

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(SKORZENY ON LEFT WITH HITLER)

This little George was such a pest to Tesla, that he earned the nickname “Curious George”, becoming a famous book character as a monkey by Tesla’s friend Hans Rey, who was relayed these stories of curiosity by Tesla. Now supposedly all the top Nazi brass made it out of Germany and some either fled to South America or America through Operation Paperclip. Some were also brought over through back channels to start a new life in America with new identities and continued living a great long life here in the The Fourth Reich, oops I meant the U.S.A. Here is a great “family” photo from Skorzeny….

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With the help of the O.S.S. and Allen Dulles, many including even the monster Josef Mengele continued to thrive…including this theory that Mengele was actually the Zodiac killer…

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Ok back to Prescott who realized he wouldn’t be able to run for President with all of his involvements with the Nazis, and his son still too young and green to push his agendas, he found himself an eager to please young protogé to groom with his sights on the White House…enter Richard Nixon….

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              (PRESCOTT ON RIGHT)
Upon returning from his Navy service, where he served in the Pacific theater, he became a congressman from California and found his way on the ticket as V.P. for Eisenhower’s two terms as President. He then ran against Kennedy and lost by a small margin thanks to Joe Kennedy’s mafia ties. This upset the very military industrial complex that Eisenhower warned us about in his farewell speech.

This also disrupted the master plan of the Fourth Reich and Kennedy threatened everything they had been working for. So with the help and funding of Texas oil men, the Mafia and CIA assets they successfully pulled off a modern day Coup D’Etat in front of the world. And with the help of the “Notorious” FBI, covered it all up. Johnson was given a full term for his role, Hoover named head of the FBI for life, and the miitary got their war.Several important people were in Dealy Plaza that day including,  Skull and Bones member, the fledgling CIA AGENT, George Sherff Jr….aka George H. W. Bush

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Well Curious George, I think we have a good idea where you were. Moving on, Tricky Dick finally gets his time in office and gets caught up in the Watergate scandal…his penance…Impeachment…paving the way for Warren Commision cronie, Gerald Ford. Who somehow got in as the Veep before the scandal erupted putting him in position to ascend to the highest office of the land. All the while, appointed by Nixon as head of the CIA at this time is none other than…you guessed it George H.W.Bush.

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The American people had finally had enough of Republican antics, so much so, they elected  a peanut farmer from Georgia. So in this lull of the Fourth Reich, they formulated the plan to move forward. Bush got on the ticket with Reagan, and shortly thereafter one of George Bush’s friends son, was set up to assassinate Ronald Reagan, allowing George Sherff Jr. to finally ascend to the highest office. Good thing old Ronnie was a tough son of a bitch, he survived, and Bush stayed in the shadows patiently waiting. Finally Bush gets into office and starts talking about illumination and New World Order and begins his assault on the Middle East with Desert Storm. Tired of the Republican way, Americans had enough again, and elect a bumkin from Arkansas, with so much dirt on him, he was easily controllable. The Cold War was over, the nineties provided yet another lull for the “planners” to crank up the dial on their agenda for world domination, de-population, and one world government. Enter the son…”W”…to continue, and by this time we had electronic voting machines which allowed him to be fraudulently elected, not once but twice.

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        (“W”, “POPPY”, AND PRESCOTT)
A false flag event paved the way to go to war in the Middle East, establish a presence and dominance there, and rape their natural resources. Here it provided a way to take away some of our rights and freedoms guaranteed under the C.Constitution. A new invisible enemy was created…the “terrorist” which could be anywhere at anytime…All the while creating “Homeland Security” (sound familiar?) It should… think SS. Now our liberties and freedoms are being eroded under the guise of protecting us. America is slowly becoming a police state, while being forced to eat genetically modifed foods, cancerous fast food, and drink fluoridated water to keep us all fat and lazy and cancer ridden. While making our realities so hard to deal with and hypnotizing people with the T.V. Now our second amendment rights are under attack from designed Gov.t operations, while they build hundreds of FEMA camps and fill the sky with surveillance drones. Our homes are being foreclosed on, less jobs, our borders are wide open, and now we’re going over the Fiscal Cliff. The end result is that the government is planning for something that is coming. When the shit hits the fan, and people here can no longer take the hopelessness and oppresion any more, we will fight back…and they dont want us to have the guns to do it with. Will local police and military turn on the citizenry when the time comes? That’s yet to be seen, they have been practicing in Middle East having our soldiers and drones kill helpless citizens that are just trying to protect themselves from foreign invaders. Can you blame them? Wouldn’t you do the same to protect your family and your home? We are the terrorists, Iraq never attacked us, Afghanistan never attacked us, yet we go and decimate the landscape and kill millions in the name of “protecting” us from “terrorists”. All this so the war machine keeps turning, and the rich get richer and the poor get poorer. Why do you think the gov’t is building vast UNDERGROUND bunkers for themselves in the Ozarks and under Denver airport? Its because THEY know something’s coming…the only question is when? If only Hitler could see what has been created in the United States…he would be so proud ….oh wait, I guess he did get to see alot of it…

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Is this really the way things have gone down? From satanistic practises and Nazi ideals that have permeated through the years? Kind of makes you think we may have won the war, but lost the battle.

Credit goes to Erik Orion who interviewed Skorzeny…for the full story check out his book here…
http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B001ECQ4CQ/ref=mp_s_a_1?qid=1358197016&sr=8-1π=SL75

**Images Courtesy of Google**

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Enough is Enough…The OIC Exposed for the Frauds They Are

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  See that there^^^? This was not composed or sent by me, and I can prove it. I don’t know what this bunch of idiots is up to, but you wanna make stuff up about me? You wanna battle fellas? You got it. This “message” was supposedly sent to Ralph on Jan.6th…Sunday. And I was banned by Ralph from his little Facebook group on the Jan.4th…Friday. When you are banned from a page, your ability to comment or post is not even an option. All you can do is look and read what others post. Now, you might say this looks real…but  there are three ways this could’ve been done. The first and obvious is photoshop, cut and paste, it’s not that hard and could be done easily. Remember … photoshopping photos is what they do. The second way this could have been done is by someone hacking my account, but there is no record of me messaging or posting in my sent messages or timeline. Then there is the third option, which I think is what they did. They created a fake email, fake facebook account, and cloned my profile to do what they needed to do, then deactivated the facebook acct. and voila… it appears to be me. He keeps propagating this here on Facebook and the JFK altnet group…

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Now, the top message is from Sat. the 5th, close to midnight, and the other is DVP denying knowing what the hell is going on. Also later in the altnet thread, John F. and a couple others said they hsd received e-mails from me.  Again, not true, and most likely done from their fake email they used to fake my cloned profile. Also, when Facebook sends you a notification, they use your profile picture, not your cover picture…this my profile pic…

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This is my cover picture…

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This is Ralph’s “picture” again…

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Seriously amaturish…if your going to fake something, at least do it right.
   So…I’m banned by you on Jan. 4th from posting and commenting on your group page…from my Jan.4th blog post······>

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Which, not 2 minutes after this post, he did ban me…and the next day I supposedly try to post on your page, when I dont have an option to, you get a notification any way, with my wrong profile pic on it….trying to align all your haters, and team up with McAdams and Von Pien? Are you serious? Sorry this is getting almost as ridiculous as your stupid, assanine Oswald bullshit…Bottom line is friendo, you have done messed with the wrong one….I dont know what your delusional antique brain is trying to do…is this the only way you think you can discredit me? Because you cant argue the evidence and facts, and the biggest fact is you Ralph Cinque, are a fraud, a charlatan, desperate to be “that” guy that made some great discovery and become rich and famous. But you’re not…not on my watch buddy. So keep trying, I’ve thoroughly discredited the OIC, and all its stupid members. Where’s all your photographic experts that agree with your analysis? There arent any…Where’s all the serious JFK researchers that support your theory? There aren’t any..You’re nothing but a pathetic, desperate, bitter old man who is lying to himself and everybody else. Make way for the new school…

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The Fetzer Conundrum….

  Based on Jim Fetzer’s private e-mails, which I won’t publish, and his public comments, which can be found at the end of my (Simplified) post, I feel compelled to write this post because I’ve had a lot on my mind recently, and I’ve been thinking about the big picture of JFK research. This community ebbs and flows with the amount of attention the mainstream media chooses to give us. The good times for researchers were immediately following the assassination, the Garrison case, the HSCA, Hunt on trial, movie JFK, and the AARB. We’ve been in a bit of a lull for almost 15 years as far as anything new goes. Next year marks the 50th anniversary of JFK’s death, and sure there will be movies and new books come out, the one I am most anticipating in David Lifton’s new book on Oswald. After that’s done, we have until 2017 for more records to be released and who knows what, if any new revelations they will hold. A lot of early researchers, have since died, or burned out on the subject, without a whole lot of attention being focused in their work. I know the community infights on damn near every aspect of this case, and can rarely agree on anything.  And I commend the ones still active after all this time, Lifton, Groedon, Di Eugenio, and countless others in the forums and on YouTube. For you to bad mouth Robert Groedon, even if you disagree with him, is abhorable….The contributions he has made and the resolve he shows every time he sets his table up in Dealy Plaza, is commendable. You couldn’t ask for researcher to do more for the truth, which is what we’re all after. I used to have Jim Fetzer on this list of researchers that are still at it, making new discoveries and keeping the subject relevent. I used to think he was great, with his radio show, and guests and articles….that is until this Oswald Innocence Campaign nonsense…and in case you didn’t know, Fetzer is the Chairman of their little project.  For a man who portends to be a philosopher and teacher, his real life attitude towards fledgling researchers is appalling. I kind of liken it to meeting a famous person or athelete, only for them to be the biggest asshole or douchebag, it’s a huge disappointment.
       Hi Jim, I’m half your age and I wasn’t even around when Kennedy was shot, or Garrison was doing his thing, or even for Watergate. I was too young to care about the HSCA, and the thing that got me started was the movie JFK, I was 17 at the time, getting ready to head to college, and really starting to care what was going on in the world around me. We can disagree and debate things all day, but at the end of the day, what have we really done? Aside from satisfying our own curiosity, jack squat. But you know what, I’m one of the few sheeple out here that does get it, and can truly see the world for what it is and how it became this way. The people my age are gonna be the ones keeping this thing alive in the years to come. We are going to be Occupying Dallas, we are going to be sitting in the National Archives pouring through millions of newly released pages, we will be the ones writing the new books and blogs, and we will be the ones in the forums trading info and discussing various topics. We are the future of JFK research and you my friend, are the past. We study the past, we go back and examine other people’s work and evidence, to either add more creedence or disprove other’s theories. At this point, thats all there is to do….For you to discourage young researchers with insults of intellect and intelligence and worthiness of having an opinion is repulsive. We are on the same side, you know, Oswald didn’t do it and all. The more I think about it, what have you done besides ask questions and philosophize on the subject. From what I see, you sir are a coattail rider standing on other people’s research and touting those you agree with this month. The OTHER people’s work you compile into a book, hardly make YOU great. What is it exactly that you discovered and researched on your own? Have you even set foot in the National Archive? You pluck people like Cinque, Costella, Mantic, Wood, Palamara, Horne that do their own work while you stamp your name on the cover. Everything you write is about other people’s work or ideas. You are so desperate to remain relevant that you are now part of the fringe, the cuckoo side, and people are taking notice…but not in the good way. THIS IS HOW YOU REPRESENT US, AND HOW YOU’RE PERCIEVED BY MOST…

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Why do think that everywhere you take this theory, you are laughed at, shunned, and banned? It’s because you’re wrong. You cant get one photography expert to back up your claims so that its even plausible. I thought you to be a reasonable man, but now I see the truth….you fit right in with Cinque and Hooke, with their bull headedness, vile manor, and the personal attacks and ridicule, that’s what people do when they cannot backup their claims. Just because you say it’s so, doesn’t make it so. You have NO outside experts backing up your claim. Last time I checked, you or anybody else in your group do not have an expertise in the field of photography, cameras and photos of that era, and you dont have a shred of tangible evidence to support your claim. You have no witness testimony putting Oswald on the stairs, except his own twisted words, not one. And there were alot of employees out there…are they all lying? You are contending Oswald watched the President die, then ran like the devil to the 2nd floor to have a soda…it is just plain stupid and makes no sense whatsoever. Your claim is a theory, based on suppositions, supported by photoshopped pictures. You’ve become a real-life version of a conspiracy theorist cartoon. Based on some of the recent stories and theories you espouse, your credibility is GONE in my eyes. Your personal attacks and insults do not go unnoticed by the rest of the community. I have a voice and an opinion, and I have a right to voice it, that’s THE REAL DEAL!

One Last Time

  I said I was done with them, but Ralph Cinque and the OIC want to continue to talk shit about me. Sorry but I’m not the type of guy to stand by idlely while being accused of being someone else or alligning me with John McAdams or David Von Pein and the like….

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I hope you liked my blog post about all of you….so to clear some things up, I am not Chancellor Adam Sutler…

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I don’t even have an ounce of a clue as to who that even is. You have not encountered me before, but it does not suprise me that others like me feel the need, due to the OIC’s vile manor, dickishness, and stupid ass “theory” you try to push on everyone, to engage you on a level a kin to war. You’re the type of guy I would seriously contemplate punching violently if you were running your lips in my face. I seriously think you need to lay off that HGH man, you got roid rage or something. I had a nice little Facebook page, with pictures of me and my family, and friends I know and went to school with. That is until FB went all CIA with their liberties and can sell and use our information to whomever and whatever purpose they see fit. Not to mention their phone app turns your phone into a spying device for them, able to listen to your calls, read your texts, see your photos, turn your mic and camera on remotely at will. After finding this out, I was done and deleted all my stuff and deactivated my account. Talking about the JFK assassination with like minded people is what I enjoy, and now I’m back incognito. McAdams and others of his ilke are even more pathetic than you are….obviously paid shills and disinfo agents with nothing better to do than roam the net and try to spread the big lie. Clark Rob is not my name, its a persona. I don’t think Oswald shot anybody that day, but he was far from innocent. The reason I attacked you, is because you struck first my friend. Your theory is flawed in so many ways, it’s mind blowing for me that you are so oblivious to the truth. Real researchers do not act the way you do. Your attitude and self rightous bullshit is why people hate you so much. You dont hear any evidence pointed out, have you ever been wrong about anything? I doubt it….being married to you is probably a nightmare. You think because you scream louder than everyone else, people will pay attention? No you get tuned out and marginalized. Anything with your name, Richard Hooke, or Jim Fetzer attached to it means dick to me and will never mean anything anymore, FOREVER!
Who am I? I am part of the network for truth and justice wherever needed…I do not forgive, I do not forget, I am Anonymous, I am Legion, I am coming,
expect me.

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LINGERING QUESTIONS OF THE ASSASSINATION: Marina Oswald

   With all that OIC business out of my system and behind me, I would like to turn my focus to some lingering questions that still puzzle me to this day…After 20 years of research, I would like to say, that I have it all figured out. But it never fails that something always pops up to make you question things, which in turn make you question something else, and so on and so on….This has to be the most intricate and studied murders if all time. There are so many apects of this case to focus on, and with your help, maybe we sort this out a bit. In each of my next several blog posts, I will be examining some questions that linger in my mind and I’m still not satisfied with. Here we go…
   The first one I’d like to address is Marina Oswald. Was she really a Soviet agent meant to keep an eye on Oswald? The first thing that says yes to me, would be her relationship with another U.S. defector before Oswald. This is Robert Webster…

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It just seems odd to me that in a nation of millions, that Marina would be romantically linked to two U.S. defectors. The odds of that happening are too astronomical to even calculate. Secondly, it had been reported by John Armstrong that he interviewed a lady that knew the Oswalds while in Russia. This lady claimed that Marina spoke good English and Oswald poor Russian. How convenient it would be to have others think you didnt understand English, with them thinking they could speak freely around you. Thirdly, it is often reported that she was teaching Ruth Paine Russian. It would be next to impossible to teach someone a foreign language unless you spoke and understood theirs. Marina was also caught in many lies, from the things she said, by claiming she had not understood the questions correctly. I.E. the backyard photos, her talk of the rifle, and their home life, I believe to be greatly exaggerated in some aspects. I believe either our government threatened her in some way for testimony, or the Soviets had agents here  monitoring her and telling her what to say. Back then, she thought her husband was guilty, and now she thinks that he’s innocent..she was also involved over the years supporting different theories. Such as being involved in his exhumation and the Elrod story. Maybe threats against her and her children swayed her testimony and views over the years.  What was behind her marriage less than 18 months later Kenneth Porter? Seems awfully quick for somebody to bury the man they loved, accused assassin if the President of the United States, to find somebody else, have a relationship with, and then marry somebody, all during a grieving time and amidst the whole Warren Commission investigation and taking care of two small children. She was constantly in the news and bombarded with interviews…seems kinda fishy to me….here she is with the lucky fella…

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Oddly… she never spoke to Marguerite or Robert Oswald or let them be a part of her children’s lives. She is still alive today, as is Ruth Paine and Robert Oswald…,if only somebody could get them to open up and tell the truth once and for all….here is a link to a 1974 article in People magazine with Marina
http://www.people.com/people/archive/article/0,20197611,00.html Edit: link is broke so i copied the full interview at the end.
…the author commented on how well she spoke English, and here she is 20 years later..still seemingly struggling with English….

  Odd to me that someone who has been in the country for 30 years at that point sounds like they just got off the boat….Food for thought…let me know vat chu tink ov dis Marina Oswald and her role in all this…Thanks for reading!

**All Images Courtesy of Google **

FacebookTwitterE-mail Ten years ago this month the Warren Commission was investigating the death of President John F. Kennedy, and the alleged assassin’s widow, Marina Oswald, was its star witness. Author Thomas Thompson, who first met Mrs. Oswald the night of the assassination, recently visited her again.

That night, that cold and frightening night in Dallas a decade ago, she seemed one of those pathetic people snatched up by the fates and slammed into a corner from which the walls closed in and sealed all exits. How could she possibly survive? Trancelike, she sat across from me, her dress cheap and shapeless, her face the color or of ash, her position impossibly cruel. She spoke no English. She had two hungry babies, one but weeks old, clamoring at her shoulder. She had coins totaling less than a dollar in her purse. And her husband—Lee Harvey Oswald, the confusing, demanding man who married her in Russia and brought her from Minsk to Texas—was on the third floor of the Dallas jail, accused of murdering the President of the-United States, condemned to the revulsion of history.

Our lives collided briefly over that maddening autumn weekend in 1963. A few hours after the assassination I found Marina Oswald in the suburb of Irving, staying with Mrs. Ruth Paine, a solicitous neighbor who had taken her in. My attempts to interview Marina were futile that Friday night, for she could not understand my questions. Beyond that, she was a woman in shock, she was limp, the enormity of the tragedy and her role as assassin’s wife just settling over her. During the night a Russian-speaking woman pediatrician was located, who next day tried to pull answers for my questions. The fragments I learned were tantalizing, but they came accompanied by crying infants and the interjections of Mrs. Marguerite Oswald, Lee’s mother, who was already putting price tags on her cooperation. The government men had questions too, and they came and took Marina away, promising that if she wished to continue the interview they would let her see me again. It would not happen this time.

On Monday I waited outside an old stone chapel at Fort Worth’s Rose Hill cemetery. Inside, private rites were being said for Lee Harvey Oswald, himself now dead from Jack Ruby’s bullet. When the chapel doors opened, one last awkward moment occurred. There were not enough pallbearers for the assassin, so some of us bystanders, reporters and the curious, lifted the coffin and bore him to the dusty clay earth of Texas. During the minister’s hurried prayer, I stood across from the open trench and watched the new widow and her mother-in-law, feeling both compassion and bitterness. Marguerite Oswald, the mother, shrieked at the clicking cameras, shrieked in a voice I can still hear, “Privacy at the grave! Privacy at the grave!” But Marine was quiet, tearless, her face wrapped like the old women of Europe and Asia who lose their husbands early and spend their remaining years in black and wrinkles. The coffin was opened for a last farewell and Marina slipped her ring on Lee’s finger, bending close to his face.

Over the years I read of Marina now and then. She received contributions totaling more than $60,000 from Americans sympathetic to her plight. She invested in a cosmetics business. She had her teeth capped. She bought clothes from Neiman-Marcus. She took a membership in a Dallas private club where she was often seen drinking vodkas neat and chain-smoking filter-tipped menthols. Lee Oswald had slapped her face if she smoked or put on makeup. She married a Dallas electronics worker named Kenneth Porter and bore him a son. They quarreled, their arguments reaching a justice of the peace court which instructed them to either stop fighting or separate. They stayed together. She sued the U.S. government for $500,000 as reparation for Lee Oswald’s personal effects, which were valuable as collectors’ oddities. She settled for $17,000. She gave but one or two terse interviews, usually shutting the door to reporters who found her, always pleading she wanted the world to forget her.

Not long ago Marina Oswald and I met again. She strode briskly into her lawyer’s office in downtown Dallas, and had I not anticipated her arrival I would not have recognized her. She is 32 now, rather pretty and slim. When complimented on her thinness she shrugged, “It’s always been this way, they called me ‘Toothpick’ in school in Russia.” Her hair was carefully bouffant, teased and sprayed in the manner of Texas housewives who spend much of their lives in curlers. She wore a black pants outfit, with peasant embroidery across her breasts.

“Is this all right?” she asked right away, pointing to her ensemble. “I mean, I would have gotten more dressed up. I have a coat suit with further trim down in the car, but I’m not really a formal person, and I figured you would want to see me as I really am.” Her English was perfect, the accent charming rather than bothersome. Often she would ask, “Is that right? Do you understand me?” But this was having it, for she has a surprising command over the language.

She looked at me for a moment and shook her head. “I’m sorry,” she said, “but I don’t remember you. But then I don’t remember much about that weekend. It’s like a fog erased those hours. Rachel was only 6 weeks old at the time, and I had to feed her and change her diapers, but I don’t remember doing that at all! I suppose humans have a tendency not to remember the things that hurt. Like in a divorce, you forget the pain and remember only the good times.”

Easily, she moved into the areas of her life. She praised her husband, Porter, for “standing by me.” “It was no easy thing, marrying me,” she said. “He took a lot of criticism from some of his friends and employers. Lee Oswald shattered my name forever, and I have to live with it. Kenneth has been wonderful, he has raised my daughters as if they were his own.” Last fall the Porters moved into their new country home on 17 acres near Dallas. “We did all of the work we could ourselves. Ken dug the ditches, put in the wiring ??? decorating. White walls, wallpaper in one room with birch trees. I would like to see another real birch tree before I die.”

Here she paused, and for a moment the look of the Russian widow passed across her face. Would she return to her native country? “Oh no, they might put me in jail or something. Once you have a taste of freedom you aren’t willing to risk it. I never even think about going back. There are moments when I yearn for it, but not the people, not the relatives I still have there. I miss Russian cookies, and picnics, and the bridge across the Neva River in Leningrad. Every time it’s foggy here I dream of Russia.” Her only souvenir of her life there is a small Russian jewelry box, a lonely memento on her makeup table.

A question arose concerning her financial condition. “Well, that $60,000 is gone, that’s for sure,” she said, with a little heat to her voice. “It’s 10 years—10 years of buying milk for babies, and dentist bills, and paying utility companies. I know people think I must be rich, that poor Kenneth is my gigolo husband who married me for my money. I laugh. I’m grateful to the American people for giving me a lift, but what am I supposed to do, issue an annual report like a company?”

I was dealing here with a woman both soft and abrasive, pepper in the custard. I remarked on it. She smiled in what might be appreciation. “For a long time I didn’t like myself,” she explained. “I went through my bitter period. I’d look at the women in the fashion magazines, the high-society women, and I’d say to myself, ‘Forget it, girl, you’ll never be anybody.’ I went through what might be called a wild period. That was right after Lee. People criticized me for taking out a private club membership. Well, after all, I was single, in need of friends, like anybody else. On Saturday night I wanted to hear the music. People called me a nymphomaniac when I went out with two different men.

That was one of the first English words I learned. Well, that didn’t bother me. They called me lesbian too, because I had a friendship with Ruth Paine, who isn’t that way at all. People are quick to apply names! I assure you I am normal and hardly interesting to anyone but my husband, children and friends.

“But not long ago I took stock. I accepted myself. In fact I think I like myself. If I don’t look like Elizabeth Taylor, then what the hell. I do my best. She doesn’t have to wash dishes or iron clothes like me, but it’s what I must do, and I do it. When I get bored or tired I drop everything and go off and entertain myself. My hobby is gardening, and I find happiness and peace in the soil.”

Marina began to talk about Watergate and women’s liberation and the fact that she has not yet become an American citizen, “because I haven’t had time to memorize all those questions about the Constitution.” But we were not discussing the cardinal matter, that event in history to which she is forever bound. I brought it up now and then, but she glided away, a tossing hand indicating that I should read the Warren Commission report “or one of those terrible books about the assassination, the kind which I have never read and will never read.”

Abruptly there was silence, as there often is between two people who do not know each other very well, and then she was asked. Clearly. To the point. “Do you believe Oswald killed the President of the United States?”

A moment of tantalizing suspense hung in the air, finally drifted away. Marina nodded. “I believe Lee was definitely involved,” she began in words carefully measured. “Of course, I didn’t see him shoot anybody. I didn’t see him pull any trigger. But I do not believe there was a conspiracy, as others have claimed. Maybe it is possible that there were two or three crazy people who all had plans to kill John Kennedy that day.” She stopped. Was that her full answer?

“Like any wife,” she went on, “I would like for my husband to be innocent. I loved him, after all. People said I married him just to get to America. I would have followed him to the moon, or to China. But I have had time now to reflect. He was not innocent. Lee definitely killed Officer Tippit, that’s for sure. And they found his prints on the rifle in the Book Depository building.” Marina seems almost convinced that her first husband killed John Kennedy, but retains a slender margin of doubt—as indeed does history. “There are too many puzzle pieces that don’t fit,” she said, bringing her hands together as if to meet, but they missed and continued on in empty air.

I wondered if Marina has been in contact with the other women whose lives were torn by Nov. 22,1963.

Marguerite Oswald, her former mother-in-law? “I haven’t seen or spoken to her since the day Lee was buried. She is…difficult. I understand her attempts to clear her son’s name, but she can be extreme.” The day before, I had visited Lee’s grave at Rose Hill. Marina wanted to know if the weeping willow tree she planted there was still growing. I told her that there was no willow, only a hardy magnolia. “I guess she took my tree away,” said Marina. “That’s too bad. I wanted the willow there—it is sad, it mourns.”

Mrs. Tippit, widow of the policeman killed by Oswald? “No, haven’t seen or spoken to her. Not a word.”

Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis? “Are you kidding? She wouldn’t spit on me. She’s a blue blood. She’s, you know, she’s ‘Don’t Touch Me.’ In my dreams I used to feel guilty and ask her for forgiveness. I used to wake up feeling crummy.” Do the dreams still occur? A vigorous negative shake. “I don’t have many dreams anymore. I sleep very well, thank you.”

It would be difficult to live in the Dallas area and not drive past the scene of the presidential assassination, for the Texas School Book Depository, empty and for sale under another name, stands on a principal route. When Marina passes that building, does she ever look up to the sixth floor window where it all began—and ended?

“When I must go by there,” she answered, “I lower my eyes. The memory is like a cat scratching my heart.”

She rose to go. She had promised one hour of talk, and almost three had gone by. “My poor husband is waiting downstairs and is going to be angry with me.” She said her goodbyes, but before she left she said one more thing. It was troubling, this last comment from Marina Oswald Porter.

“Sometimes in the dark of night I begin to think. And I wonder if Lee started all this violence. Each time somebody else died…that way…Bobby Kennedy, Martin Luther King, Wallace shot…it was a new dagger stuck in me. All this blood. All this dying. Did Lee bring this down on America?”

WOW!

An Embarrassment to JFK Research

  This post intends to expose the tactics and personalities behind the Oswald Innocence Campaign once and for all, for the fraudulent and disingenuous bullies they are.  And after this post, will never be mentioned again, as they deserve no more attention from me or any other SERIOUS JFK researcher.
   I’d heard about Ralph Cinque and his buddies through listening to Jim Fetzer’s radio show and gave their articles a curious look. I’m open to new ideas and was intrigued by what was touted as the “greatest breakthrough in the JFK assassination.”
   Say hello to Ralph Cinque everybody…
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He would really love for you to come visit his sprawling estate and pay almost $1000 a week to stay with him and learn how to not eat. In other words, you get nothing but a room and some healthy encouragement! Sounds great, but wait there’s more…Ralph would also like to sell you some Human Growth Hormone…
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   I thought that was illegal…but what do I know? Simply amazing results Ralph, you look great! Maybe it’s because of all the vitamins, supplements, and natural remedies you sell…
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Oh, I almost forgot, he is also a chiropractor, which allows him to make such keen observations of the way a person’s clothes fit on their body…oookay then….moving right along….The only reason I bring any of this up is just to illustrate the questionable credibility of this modern day snake-oil salesman. Wanting people to replace their prescription drugs for this non-FDA approved, god knows whats in this crap! If that doesn’t tell you all you need to know about this guy….wait there is more…his charming personality!
   Let’s see…in a few short sentences he managed to accuse me of being somebody else, an accesory to the murder of JFK, and having shit for brains.I also got the obligatory “fuck you mother fucker” only said in the kind doctor-like Cinque way.

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And now we get to the meat and potatoes…the maniacal ravings of a lunatic who has no concept of logic…meet the cigar store indian….

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Now, you might be saying what the …? My thoughts exactly…

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He is trying to say that everyone in the picture is “showing emotion” except for Lovelady. Because this was faked and he was inserted later, don’t ya know! Everything I posted over there was deleted as soon as I posted it…because, well, he is the master and overlord of his domain and doesn’t want dissenting opinions expressed on his page…that’s fine, but is that the mark of true researcher?

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Then I begged him to ban me…

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Enough about this guy…but if you would like to read more about what a great guy Ralph Cinque is please check this guy’s blog out
http://ralphcinqueisastupidbitch.blogspot.com/?m=1 This is a great post that goes into more detail and insight on this guys antics.
    Moving on to the guy responsible for my initial disdain…The Captain…Richard Hooke. I don’t really have much to say about this guy other than he is a propaganda artist and thief. Want proof?

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That is my original post, and a lil while later, over at his place…he takes all the credit for making a new discovery…

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All he did was crop my pic and put a red circle on it…like nobody could tell where Lovelady was….For more entertaining reading on this guy…
http://richardmhookeisonedumbassfooke.blogspot.com/?m=1
From the same guy that brought us the Cinque blog.
And last but not least James H. Fetzer, the good doctor that teaches philosophy and scientific reasoning, yet doesn’t seem to practice any of it. Mr. Put up or Shut up says all kinds of things, mostly hot air, and loves to hear himself speak. You disrespect the memory of your good friend, legendary photo analyst Jack White. Bravo Jim, you think a snake-oil selling chiropractor made a great discovery, but for 50 years a brilliant photo analyst who actually studied the case somehow missed this? He didn’t….here is his take…
https://deeppoliticsforum.com/forums/showthread.php?6252-Altgens-6-Case-for-Alteration
Now that Trask has established that there was no time for the Altgens to be altered (“it was on the wire in 20 min. to the entire world, we were proud of that…-Ike Altgens”) and appeared in papers the evening of the 22nd. And I am also pretty sure no Lovelady doubles were used (why?) that leaves only a couple of his statements to be useful…
1) “I doubt the man to be Oswald for many reasons”
2)A cut and paste job would be too complicated
3)After many years of study, MY results are inconclusive
4) If it is Lovelady, then it is much ado about nothing.
          Agreed Jack! Jim you should be ashamed of yourself for promoting the behavior of your little group with their personal attacks and vile manor. You are already that crazy “conspiracy theorist” the media loves to have on, incessantly rambling out your facts like a didactic robot…you make us all look bad. We are supposed to be searchers of the truth, not promoting every dim-wit theory that comes your way because nobody else will give them the time of day. Philosophize on that and use your logic and reasoning skills to figure out this a ridiculous theory based on manufactured evidence, not all the available evidence that proves Oswald coulf NOT have been in the doorway at this time. Jim also won’t return my e-mails now…(I think they may have got to him) For more fun facts on Jim Fetzer check out…

http://fetzerfollies.blogspot.com/?m=1
Same author as the last two blogs…I’m guessing they pissed of Joe Backes as much as me, well maybe more! Hopefully now that the truth of these shills is out for the world to see, we can all move on and continue as we were…Oh and one last parting shot….I think you might wanna up the dosage on your HGH there fella, I think the “effects” are wearing off!

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Thanks for reading and please feel free to comment and share this blog with the world! 😉

**All images courtesy of Google**

DEFINITIVE PROOF OSWALD WAS NOT IN THE DOORWAY (SIMPLIFIED)

  In this post I am going to let the evidence, testimony, and critical thinking speak for itself. To see for yourself what the Oswald Innocence Project is doing and saying please Google that name or Veterans Today, Jim Fetzer for their articles. The detractors will try to say that all the photos and video were faked taken that day in Dealy Plaza. That statement itself is just RIDICULOUS. While we share the same conclusion, that Oswald did not kill JFK, we arrive through different avenues…mine the story the best available evidence and testimony and theirs through degraded photos and manufactured “comparison points”. And just to keep it easy to follow, I will do this in chronological order. Okay….here we go….

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This is the Altgens 6 photo in question, and yes it has been colorized….but the part in question that the OIC is claiming that it was really Oswald in the doorway, and that the photo has been altered to portray the figure in the doorway as Billy Lovelady. Here is the close up that they work with….

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In this photo, they claim that the real Lovelady has both hands up and whose face has been “blacked out”, they claim that the guy in the white shirt with one hand up has been “obfuscated”, they also claim that “Doorwayman” is missing a shoulder, and that the black tie man is both in front of and behind him at the same time. Also included by them as weird “anomalies” is the floating blsck mans head and the black lady’s tall hair.
   Okay they put Oswald in the doorway at the time of the shots, contrary to several witnesses placing Oswald in the lunchroom anywhere from as early as 11:50 by Bill Shelley and as late as 12:25 by Carolyn Arnold. They also point to the fact that in Capt.Fritz’s interrogation notes that Oswald himself said he was “out front with Bill Shelley”. However they are inferring that Oswald was speaking of himself. The questions that Fritz asked are not included in the notes, he could have been asking the whereabouts of Roy Truly or someone else. Because the notes are written in a bullet point form and not like a book, they are condensed and shortened like anyone taking notes would do. The question where were you at the time of the shooting would be one of the first questions asked, and it was. Right before that it clearly says 2nd. Floor when officer came in, 1st floor had lunch…heres the notes

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In the same notes he then says he left work…

    That sure looks like Oswald to me coming down the steps…and here are some stills showing his attire and hairline…

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This video clearly shows Oswald wearing blue jeans, white t shirt, and an unbuttoned cardigan or some type of sweatshirt.  Also in the 2nd page of Fritz’s notes, he states he changed his SHIRT AND PANTS at his apt and that what he was wearing is in the hamper.

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This is supported by the testimony and interview with Earlene Roberts, the housekeeper of his rooming house…

The so called brown shirt Oswald changed into, could be misconstrued as a short jacket by an elderly woman with bad eyesight as he hurriedly walked out the door due to its appearance and lapels.

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Now if in fact he did grab a jacket, why wasnt he arrested with one? We all agree Oswald didnt shoot Tippit, so the OIC needs to explain what happened to this so called jacket, and why he would ditch it on the way to the theater. There are numerous pics and video showing Lovelady wearing the red flannel shirt that day, and they point to his different appearance, which can be explained by video still effects which distort the way a person looks by freezing a moving picture. The effects of the Altgens photo can be easily explained by a 2D layering effect….here is the scene from another angle…

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From a view the angle Altgens was shooting from everyone on the stairs appear interwoven and on top of each other when in reality, there was space between the people on the stairs.
   In closing, does it make sense that Oswald was in the doorway, saw the President get shot, and rushed to the 2nd floor to get a soda within seconds of a shooting and that all video and pics were altered? Or would common sense and logic, evidence, and witness testimony make more sense? I know it’s hard to admit when you’re wrong, but the gig is up OIC. Do you want to be marginalized by the research community to crack-pottery, or taken seriously as  JFK researcher?

-conspiracycritic